Ebbie - the original reason I got into this thread was simply that I saw some posters here demonizing other posters here with various derogatory labels and trying to prove that they are "bad" people because they have a different opinion about something. That's why I started posting here.

Then I got interested in some other aspects that came up during a wide-ranging discussion, and that's why I'm still here...aside from when I'm just cracking a few jokes, that is.

I have no desire to impede anyone's access to equal rights under the law, I assure you.

I do not have to have a personal ax to grind about Proposition 8 to engage in this discussion. There's lots of other stuff to talk about here. A conversation, after all, is like the wind. You never know where it's going to go next.