well....... if you include profit - a long way.

Here in the UK Cambridge has acts like Bill Wyman - and for all his erudition on the subject of Folk Blues - I bet his public wanted rock music. But they still call it a folk festival. And they can't afford to not have "names" - or 25,000 people would look like 15,000 and that is a big loss.

As I see it - it is anarchy out there and money talks (and lies badly).