The real question, Spaw, is did Friends bungle...? I am writing a book on famous Quaker bunglers, like the fellow who came up with the idea for the Penitentury... we had a lot to say "whoops" about for that! Then there is whale fishing, a good idea at the time, possibly, but we have been a little red faced about that one over time... and then there is helping end slavery but not granting Black folks membership in Meetings... yup, we bungled it... (Kidding about the book, but then again... maybe a good idea...)
Cheers
Lor
PS as to me personally being red faced about our whale fishing... I am like my friend who calls himself an unrepentant Stalinist... I rather think we should save the whales, just in case we Friends ever need them again to restore Quakerism as a successful ecconomic force, be peaceful to each other, yes, but a dead whale or a stove boat... - Now, before I get death threats from other Friends... I am just kidding, but I do think the Quaker whale fisheries were a great part of our history... and the degree to which having Black captains over White crews during slavery days was a statement of our progressive ideas, well, I am happy we hunted whales when we did, and am happy we stopped when we did.
PPS Now the question is, where there Buglers on the whale ships?