There's something seriously wrong with people still trying to get others to join their side in a vendetta over something that may or may not even have happened OVER TWO YEARS AGO! For fuck's sake, if you can't get over it, don't want to try to talk to the 'other side' then shut up about it and stop trying to recruit other haters.

And if this thread continues to be a place to play out a stupid vendetta, I think it should be closed. I believe 'Zen' is long gone and his leaving has more than a little to do with the pettiness evident in this thread.

To everyone else, if anyone, no matter how much you think you like them, tries to convince you that a third party is evil, look for the evil in the one trying to convince you. Only really fucked up, nasty people want you to hate someone. Walk on and leave them, with their other nasty friends, to their own cult of anti-whomeverism.

I'm really sick of what the nasties do here. Don't even consider the thought you can get away with blaming the 'other' guys. Your choice, your behavior, your demonization, your logged-out, not-so anonymous posting. You. Not 'them'.

And I don't want PMs. If it has to do with this two year old chat room bullshit, I don't even care. It's OVER. Mudcat is not gang turf.