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Thread #122690   Message #2696841
Posted By: Lox
10-Aug-09 - 07:18 AM
Thread Name: BS: Hate laws
Subject: RE: BS: Hate laws
Can you show me where I said you were a Liar?

There is no evidence of me saying any such thing.

This is a straw man.

The evidence shows quite clearly that I have pointed out, rightly, that your assertions regarding immigration are unsupported.

My consistent point on the subject of scapegoating is that there is no evidence to support the claims being made about minority groups.

I hardly ever drink, much less get to the Pub. I know where the evidence is to support my views and I can provide links or accreditation when I make a factual claim.

On the subject of Moslem immigrants, I am an eye witness with a year and a halfs sustained experience of living amongst "them" so my testimony stands as evidence on that basis.

My considerable varied and comprehensive experience entirely contradicts the brief second hand testimony you have processed via your Goan friend.

"I think that Muslims don't wish to integrate with mainstream UK society, but I can understand why they dont"

This is not a view point, it is a statement of what you believe to be fact.

It is very inflammatory and it is NOT TRUE.

If you wish to assert your claim you must provide evidence.

"I dislike our government's policy of encouraging mass economic immigration"

Again, this is a statement of what you believe to be fact.

Again, you have no evidence to support your claim.

Equally there is no evidence of "Mass" Immigration occurring.

Again, deeply inflammatory claims to make especially without evidence.

"I feel this causes racial tension"

NO!

What causes racial tension is MISINFORMATION such as that which I have quoted in this post.

You are right that if you tell the unemployed and disenfranchised that immigrants are coming her en masse, as a result of a deliberate policy of mass immigration, taking our jobs and refusing to integrate - that tensions could result.

So if you are going to make these claims you must provide evidence.

Otherwise you are stoking up resentment.

And you do not have that right.

On the subject of immigration and employment, I have provided evidence that shows clearly that IF THERE WERE a correlation, it would show that immigration brings unemployment down as when immigration has been at its highest over the last hundred years, unemployment has been at its lowest and most stable.

However, such a facile approach to analyzing evidence would be trite and utter nonsense,as there are so many other influences on unemployment levels that are more significant that the figures don't assist in reaching any other conclusion other than that scapegoating is unsupportable.

You have freedom of speech and noone here is gagging you.

You are free to express any point of view you like.

The points quoted above are not opinions, they are what you believe to be FACT.

And they are not supported by evidence despite continued requests.


I haven't read your comments on homosexuality.