The Victoria sounds about right Derek, singaround was run mainly by Tony Wilson. The Vic was one of the few places you could buy fresh Newcastle Brown Ale in Liverpool, I think Tony saw to that as he drank so much of it ;) There was a BBC link a while back on here to a programme about Liverpool, Tony appears in an early shot, drinking (presumably) a pint of Newkee Brown. Whilst the (mainly) unaccompanied singing went on in the 'Bamboo Room' the bar was usually host to a mottly band of musicians led by Bernie Davis (sp?)playing Orange marching tunes, hornpipes and the odd jig, these musicians aquired the name 'Mable's Own Ceili Band' I think referring to the landlady of the Vic.