Jim, I might well be wrong, but my GUESS was that in a tight time slot the organisers may have decided to focus more on music than discussion. My point was that discussions of this sort so often become complicated and contentious, due to the poxy nit-picking, petty bickering and argument that threads like this descend into - which your comment to me has illustrated rather well. In my humble, it's all very not useful in the slightest. I was noteing that while S Harris (as someone who apparently didn't know what the campaign was about) *might* have been making a fair observation worth considering, but I also can also understand that the fairly tight one hour launch slot, being more musical than speech or discussion oriented. Anyway, feel free to reply and quibble, but I won't be. I'm not going to contribute anything further, that will aid this thread to follow the same path all the rest seem to. Sorry if I sound 'short' I'm in an irritable mood.