Hi Eliza, pretty good, I just can't help getting into arguments though. I was talking structure and form. When you look at modern, that is post 1960s popular music you find a lot of stuff that is additional to the words and melody. I reckon that this makes it structurally more complex than a thirty + verse Child ballad, BUT… the simple repetitive structure of the latter can make it much more of an intellectual challenge. I don't think folk songs were once pop songs. Both words are meaningless when trying to describe a genre. We use 'Stand By Me' as a whole scheme of work in KS3, it's a brilliant example for kids to get their heads around, riffs, ostinati, syncopation etc. just because its repetitive doesn't make it simple in the same way that the 'simple' structure of folk songs can hide another kind of complexity…do you think that's enough to start another row? :-)