"Amen to that, except that most of the people causing the arguments on Mudcat are not FAF and have no interest in pursuing FAF ends. They are BNP trolls"
- Fred McCormick

Fred, there either that or people whose interest in everyday life extends only to what the next fashion trend will be, when the next "big" rock concert will be and where it'll be.

and I came across this quote from the American writer Dwight MacDonald,in his book On Movies, who was referring to the late film director Otto Preminger, but it works for certain contributors to this thread...here goes

" No one is more skilled at giving the appearance of dealing with large controversial themes in a bold way without making the tactical error of actually doing so."

Stand and Be Counted
Olivia Beak (Ms)