DougR,
First of all, my name is John, not George.

Asking you questions about whether or not you listen to Rush Limbaugh seemed appropriate, since you were mocking people for listening to him, and mocking Donuel for starting this thread. If you don't want to be part of the conversation, don't join in. Since it's a thread about whether or not Limbaugh et al are liars, pretending that asking you about it is getting into personal territory is dumb. Maybe as dumb as thinking that means you get to ask me about my sex life.

You and I pay for the health care of all those people who go to the emergency room because they don't have insurance. It's a huge waste, and part of the reason our health care system is broken. Deciding that only the wealthy get to have health care outside of the emergency rooms that you and I pay for is, indeed, heartless. I don't think you are rejoicing about that, but it is terribly selfish of you.

If you don't believe the president was born in the United States you're an idiot. Do you really think the Republican Party didn't check it out? Do you really think all the websites that are displaying images of his birth certificate are presenting fake evidence? Do a Google image search. It turns up 579,900 hits.

If you believe that the president wants to do away with our representative government, you're an idiot. Do you have any evidence of that, other than Rush Limbaugh? Besides, a representative republic could just as easily be socialist as capitalist. The two aren't really related in this way.

If you believe 95% of what Rush Limbaugh says, you're an idiot. Willful ignorance is MUCH worse that plain old normal ignorance. I'm curious as to how you put up with his being a drug addict and lying about it.

If you don't see the analogy between the members of our society joining forces to fight fires and members of our society joining together to send sick folks to the doctor, you're an idiot. Here's a good one for you: if universal health care is socialism, so is the United States Army. Anything we pay for as a group is a degree of socialism. Most of us call it civilization.

The reason I asked you those questions is so I could maybe find out -- and encourage you to proclaim to the world -- how much of an idiot you really are. Thank you for the illumination. Now we know how much your opinion on this subject is worth. I know I sound harsh, but you bastards are trying to ruin our country and I'm tired of it. Is maintaining a collection of easily proven lies really more important to you than honesty and honor? I know, I know, we all tore down Bush while he was in office. News flash: Bush started a war based on lies, killed thousands of people (WAY more than the terrorists of 9/11), endorsed torture as a tool of American statecraft, and trashed the Constitution by inviting religious folks into the government and by spying on us in ways that were specifically named as illegal. Don't you think you should wait until Obama does something almost as bad before you start disparaging his patriotism and truthfulness?