there are many situations as a Quaker in the US, I refuse to show ID, because much of the asking for it is the theater of contol around the US belief that we have the right to kill in any nation on earth which cannot stop us. Our assasins have killed in a number of nations with whom the US is not at war, and then, of course there is the killing at war.
This is a violent and agressive nation and the US does not believe, any more, in the right to be left alone.
Frankly, if I were a Black American, I know from the experience of friends, I would not get away with not showing ID, and am protected by my "plain clothes" - folks thing that "Amish" fellows don't have ID, and would not know the difference between a plain dressing Quaker and an Amish person if one bit them on the ass, which we do not do anyway.
There was a book, "Black like me" written when I was a kid, about a white fellow who got Melonin injections to experience what it was to walk around America as a Black man... reading this thread makes me believe it not only should be read more often, but a year of being Black would be a good part of every American's education espcially if it included being poor.
By the way, when he was younger Woody Guthery WAS asked for ID, and showed his guitar callouses to keep from being arrested for vagerency.
Loving all here, but tired as hell of living in a police state
Lor