This is such a good discussion, let's expand it a little bit. Has anybody paid attention to other gangsta rap songs? CopKiller is relatively moderate by today's standards. It is also almost a direct copy of several other raps that have become hits (Snoop Doggy Dogg's "Fuck the Police", etc). Then there are the violent pornographic specialists, like 2 Live Crew. They perform lyrics about "fucking up bitches" and "tearing" them up. It is nothing less than pushing extreme violence toward women, in this case during the act of apparently forcible sex, toward the mainstream. White fraternity boys in my previous neighborhood listened to this stuff at their yard parties all the time. Does anyone want to defend this art? To the same extent as CopKiller was defended as social commentary? Learn some more about this phenomenon so we'll all know what we're talking about (I humbly suggest). No disrespect intended, but I'm fascinated by the idea of 5 and 8 year-olds having discussions about mob mentality and societal belief systems. Please tell more.

With real concern, Chet W.