... or, when Dennis Kucinich is allowed to participate in a debate (e.g., early in the Democratic primaries in 2008), he is marginalized in ways like this: First, he's hardly asked any questions at all by the "debate" moderator. Second, one of the very few (two?) times he's called on, he's asked about whether Shirley MacLaine's story that he had seen a "UFO" is true. Third - to add insult to injury - when 'liberal' PBS commentator Gwen Ifill is discussing the debate with others in a news show, her only mention of Kucinich is to grin and say that "... Dennis Kucinich was there - talking about UFOs."