The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #123234 Message #2711375
Posted By: Melissa
29-Aug-09 - 04:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: Starting New Threads
Subject: RE: BS: Starting New Threads
The crosslink arrangement is a neat setup. Thanks for the info. I overestimated my disinterest earlier and am (obviously) adding at least one more post to this thread.
Joe, you are in the top everyday leadership position. If you were to post a message within a thread that said something like "I just don't think it makes any sense for blue Jolly Ranchers to be considered a Classic Flavor" it is evident that you are posting as a member/participant. When you post messages that are clearly stated from your position of leadership, I think it is reasonable for any of us who happen to read them to feel like whatever you've said is some sort of rule/code/guideline/clue as to what you would like us to do. I also think it's reasonable for us to be able to count on you posting as Leader with a little bit of foresight and care. Whether we decide to comply with whatever we think your wishes might be, YOU are the Leader around here. Leadership is often a thankless, underappreciated, exhausting job.
I firmly believe that if we were allowed the option of having actual discussions, your job would be a lot easier. We ARE adults and I honestly think we are perfectly capable of discussing topics like this and coming out with a reasonable idea of what we should do to make things run smoother and less fractured. I know you oppose policy discussions here. Doing that also serves to squash behavioral discussions and when we have no way of communicating in broad daylight on related things, we're not going to be able to function as a well-behaved group no matter how much we may want to. We can't BE a group if we don't have the option of clearing up simple questions between us without needing you to hold our hands (and erratically smack it)
This place has a bunch of good members. I think you underestimate our willingness to get along and our interest in playing nicely.
I do not think I have ever said anything rude or inconsiderate about you in a thread. I have sent both appreciative and sharp-tongued PMs. I have also spoken in your defense (go ahead and bristle up a little if you need to..say you never asked for and do not need to be defended) and will no doubt continue to.
It is not complimentary at all for me to say that if your post at 3:04 was intended to be as pissy as it looks from this side of the computer, I think you are due for a break from this place. There is no reason for a volunteer position to wear you down enough for you to lose your ability to make your point with a little bit more tact.
By saying "I'm not particularly sorry about embarrassing anyone by daring to question their judgment in starting unnecessary threads." my automatic response is that I have no reason to hesitate questioning your leadership skills..especially if you are intending to lead by example.
I think you're a good guy, Joe, but it sure looks like you're not enjoying our company as well as you'd like to. Most of us are good guys too, you know.