Hi Doug -- the above was for Fionn -- Joe O has not posted to this thread -- so when i mentioned him here -- Fionn didn't know what i was talking about --- understandably so --- on the other thread you and Joe are in agreement -- in my tired mind i took that to this thread -- actually i should just get some sleep -- but i'm waiting on some e-mail that i need to do some time sensitive work -- i hope that answers your question?peace (Y) thosp