Sigh. All I wanted to add was that I broke up laughing the last time I heard 7 Joys of Mary. They're SO gruesome. Ever get a group into a song and there's just no way to stop it?

Ah well. Oregon sounds nice. I wonder what the joys of Oregon would be that you know you ought not to like, but which you've come to love anyway. Here in Ottawa for example, I don't really like winters anymore, but there is something JOYFUL in that first day where the wind chill factor runs to minus fifty. One feels more alive, especially if you go out for a walk.