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Thread #4257   Message #272351
Posted By: Abby Sale
06-Aug-00 - 11:46 AM
Thread Name: Origin: Shenandoah
Subject: RE: Song info:
Bob: Thanks.  But I just say a lot about them.  It's Barry Finn that actually knows a lot about them.  (Him sing good, too.)    Also, as suggested, buying the two Boarding Party tapes from Camsco is a solid one-year course in sea songs.

I'm trying to think back - didn't we use a hamburger-hauling chantey on inputting supplies?

Here's another (below) - also in the database.  The Abrahams book is very good & I much recommend it.  The rowing chanteys intrigue me much.  The savants are reluctant to see anything as a "chantey" not strictly associated with work-time-setting on the great sailing ships.  The argument is good and consistant among several whose opinions I respect.  The legit rowing chantey (say, for rowing up to wind) seems a grey area.  But not being a savant, or a professional of any kind, I have no trouble seeing, say, "C'est L'Aviron" as a chantey.

The Caribbean rowing songs are generally 1) derived from tall ship sailors 2) derived from, based on or in the style of known chanteys & 3) used to set time at sea.  But the really important part of this (regardless of definitions) is the image/reality of a boatload of rowers on the open sea & going after large fish and even regularly after whale.  These were gutsy guys.  Or: Hey fellers, let's just row over to St. Thomas and see the girls ("Fine Time of Day").

They are still known and used in building construction!

Oh, My Rolling River^^^

All through the rain and squally weather
    Oh, my rolling river
All through the rain and squally weather
    We are bound away from this world of misery

Misery, I come to tell you
All through this rain and wind all squally

Salambo, I love your daughter
Salambo, this white mulatta

Seven long years we toiled the ocean
Seven long years I never wrote her

All through the rain and squally weather
All through this rain and windy squally

Misery, my captain cry out
Solid fas', my bowman cry out

I courted Sally, no pen no paper
I courted Sally with foolscap paper^^^

From Roger Abrahams's Deep the Water, Shallow the Shore.