"I dig them all actually"
No answer there then - my question was "where do these source singers stand in your estimation in relation to folk and the tradition -
was Frank Sinatra a traditional singer - as was WALTER PARDON, HARRY COX - oh - and DAVIE STEWART or aren't they traditional singers?
Are these just your views - where can we go to compare your views with those of others of your frame of mind, or don't they approve of research either?
I have no views on the aims of the ICTM; I would like to see their work in full before I reached an opinion - why, have they come up with a new definition - if so, what is it - and if they have, does it include "24 Hours to Tulsa, Leader of the Pack, Blues, Shanties, Kipling, Cicely Fox Smith, Musical Hall, George Formby, Pop, County, Dylan, Cohen, Cash, Medieval Latin, Beatles, Irish Jigs and Reels, Scottish Strathspeys, Gospel, Rock, Classical Guitar, Native American Chants, Operatic Arias and even the occasional Traditional Song and Ballad".?
Do your ethnomusicologist friends publish the results of their work - can we all have a look?
The Oxford English dictonary gives ethnomusicology as "the study of one or more (especially non-European) cultures; doesn't claim to concentrate on one particular type, though the published examples seem to seem to be made up exclusively of (non-existant!!!!!) traditional folk cultures.
What are your views on the work of the English Folk Dance And Song Society, The Irish Traditional Music Archive, The Folklore Society of Ireland, The School of Scottish Studies, The American Folklore Society, The Ballad Conference, The Traditional Song Forum, Comhaltas, Steve Roud's folksong and broadside index...... and all the other individuals and organisations throughout the world that still work to the existing definition?
Jim Carroll