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Thread #123812   Message #2729532
Posted By: Lox
23-Sep-09 - 08:34 AM
Thread Name: BS: Irish vote on Lisbon treaty looms
Subject: RE: BS: rish vote on Lisbon treaty looms
I suspect it will be significantly different this time.

1. Ireland suffered badly in the credit crunch and has lost some of its arrogance and realized how much they have to thank europe for over the last 15 years.

2. This time the YES campaign won't be taking it for granted. Last time round there was practically only one campaign and that was for NO - surprisingly the NO's got the vote.


And a good thing too. All this crap about being ruled from brussels, as if it means that the Irish are giving power away to foreigners, is a load of jingoistic claptrap.


Before the EU, europeans went to war with each other.

It is the antidote to european nationalism which does nthing but cause strife and misery.

It ain't perfect but its a lot better than what existed before.

"but we want to keep the pound" it makes no difference practically except to make brits pay through the nose for foreign exchange.

"its about our sovereignty"

no it isn't - its about dislike of europeans. Get over it - this generation has no interest in that kind of nationalist claptrap.