Fionn- good plan. Will bear those times in mind. I intend to spend time at the hobgoblin stall anyway, so that's a good suggestion (I'm typing with one hand as my concertina's still attached to the other!) Will you be identifiable as a mudcatter or will I just feel the sparks fly as you approach? :0)) (sorry)Look forward to seeing you, Fionn, Bron, sledge, sophocleese's uncle..............