"but there are issues (like immigration, which need to be debated, that debate is not happening here, because, whenever the issue is raised, the usual suspects start screaming."

Ake.

If you want to talk about immigration and you think it is an important issue, then start a thread and call it "the tricky issue of immigration" or something like that.

Then you will have a forum in which you can discuss the issues around immigration.

People will be able to express their views.

You will be able to explain your views and if anyone disagrees you will have the opportunity to support your views or learn from those of others depending on how you feel

You will also get the oportunity to provide information supprorting your claims as will others.


I will then be free to open up mudcat withut reading another whingeing post about how noone talks about immigration.


The reason noone else has started such a thread is that noone else has felt motivated to do so.


So here's your chance.


You are now free, just as you always have been, to start a discussion on immigration.


Then finally you might stop banging on about your fantsay that somehow you are being censored or you civil liberties are somehow being curtailed.

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In the meantime, isn't Emma's thread on the subject of the BNP very interesting.