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Thread #123889   Message #2733010
Posted By: Royston
28-Sep-09 - 06:32 AM
Thread Name: BS: The BNP conundrum
Subject: RE: BS: The BNP conundrum
Keith, it's a ten year spread. I specifically suggested that immigration was probably higher in the 1935-1945 period and in the 50's / '60s baby and immigration booms. If you restrict the time period enough then you can make anything a "record".

The point is that you claimed we are in a "record" or "unprecedented" era of immigration now. The telegraph article, which was a distortion and which you mis-read, is a two years old set of lies.

Now, even the two year old ONS figures you've found show that in the years 1998-2007, the peak immigration rate was in 2004. In 2007, when the Telepgraph wrote their helpful article, the rate was lower than in 2004. So whichever you slice it the Telegraph were lying when they claimed a "record" level in 2007 and you are grossly incorrect to be referring to the same fallacious claim in 2009.

And the wider point is that if you had come here and said that you were worried about what all the facts prove are sharply falling immigration rates in 2009 as compared to 2004-2007 and a large-scale return of migrant workers to their home countries, then we could have had an honest discussion.

However you came here with a load of out-of-date hysteria, mis-understood (I suspect deliberately) data, and you assert that this should be the basis of an adult debate?