Serious question, going competely off the main subject of pirate shirts. The education system fails people like Lizzie and Carol and, to a certain extent, my daughters. Assuming there is a percentage of people that it does not work for - Lets say 10% for sake of argument - is it right to continue saying it is so wrong. I fully understand the passion people have over their childrens education. Been there, done that, but why attempt to demolish a system that is nearly right? Why not just build on the sucesses and help in way you can rather than just criticise others? Why not do what I did and turn the negative into a possitive? Some people see just the falures. Others see an opportunity to improve. Belonging to the latter camp has certainly improved my life:-)

DeG