With this sort of thing, Q, it all depends on whose "authoritative" testimony one chooses to read.

And people usually read the stuff that agrees with the opinion they already favor. I've been reading books about the considerable dangers of various vacinnations for at least the last 30 years, but I doubt they're on your favorite reading list, nor would you be inclined to seek them out.

Likewise, I'm quite disinclined to seek out the official material dispensed by the Institute of Medicine which you quote, and other such authorities who are tied in with the people you put your trust in who I gather are the mainstream medical authorities such as the AMA. I don't trust them. I think they're in thrall to huge profit-based interests and that much of what they do is quackery. You do trust them. I trust other people whom you would probably not trust because you'd consider them to be "quacks" or radicals of some kind.

They all have much to say, and they disagree radically with each other. Each of us has decided which "authoritative" voices we can trust, and our choices are divergent.

Therefore we will, I expect, always disagree about it. ;-) And that's okay, as far as I'm concerned.

You'll get vaccinations. I won't. And that's okay too, as far as I'm concerned, because your business is yours and mine is mine.

And there's not a darned thing either of us can do to change the other's opinions, and I know it. Nor will either of us ever prove the other to be "wrong". I don't post my opinions to change anyone's mind, I just post them because, like most people, I enjoy expressing myself in print now and then on Mudcat, and that's all there is to it.

I say what I think is true. You say what you think is true. We've both expressed ourselves, and that's fine. A democracy permits people of divergent opinion to express themselves.

A democracy does not force everyone to get a vaccination, and that is what concerns me. I want to keep living in a democracy, not be "protected" by some sort of authoritarian medical system that tells me I or my child MUST be vaccinated.

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Regarding my statement that a vaccination is toxic and it poisons your system, that can easily be determined by simple observation. Note what happens when you get a vaccination. Your body generally reacts to the vaccination with swelling, redness, soreness, and other signs of strong bodily reactions to toxicity in the place where you were vaccinated. I remember how I reacted to vaccinations when I was a child. It would sometimes make my whole upper arm sore for a few days, and it sometimes left a scar for life. Sometimes it makes people feel quite ill. Occasionally it kills them. I call that an obvious case of a toxic substance put in the blood that poisons your system.

Since it doesn't poison most people enough to actually kill them, however, most people take it for granted and figure that "big daddy" in the white coat knows best. Well, they used to take various other stuff for granted too which we now consider quite harmful (like the "big daddies" of the day bleeding people for every darned ailment under the sun...once an honored practice of mainstream medicine and supported by the authorities of the time, but now discredited).

They were wrong then. They may very well be wrong now.

You can do internet searches to find plenty of stuff to back up either your or my opinion. So have fun...and look up the stuff you agree with. I'll have fun looking up the stuff I agree with, and both of us will remain firmly confident in our views, no doubt.

As long as we both still have the free choice to either get or not get the vacinnation, I don't care.