thanks Tim'

you are a lot more patient than me, I hope you get the answer this discussion deserves, but I wouldn't suggest you hold your breath.

Keith, anyone with any real experience of racial and cultural diversity in this country or elsewhere and/or with any witness knowledge of what havoc is caused in the third world by 'us' could ever spout the recycled bollocks that you do. For your trenchant refusal to consider even the most patient of debaters with real experience or cogent arguments, I hold you in utter contempt.