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Thread #124081   Message #2743074
Posted By: Lox
10-Oct-09 - 05:01 PM
Thread Name: BS: Tommy Teirnan - raving racist or what?
Subject: RE: BS: Tommy Teirnan - raving racist or what?
Crow sister,

You did the same as sugarfoot Jack.

And you did the same thing as I did with smokey.

You took an objectionable comment and you used it to make a point.

I understand your point.

I know you don't have a problem with the Irish.

But however convoluted your reasons as compared to Tommy Tiernans for his holocaust rant, or mine for my anti smokey rant, or Sugarfoot Jacks for his Irish rant, it still remains true that you used an example of an objectionable comment to make a point and that at no time were you expressing any view about the Irish as being Jew Haters in the process.

You said:

"Maybe it was a bit risky, but hey I'm an edgy kind of humourist! And as you said upthread, if we have to explain our jokes, they wouldn't be so funny.."

If that's a fair comment, does it only apply to you?



I think there are grounds to be suspicious of TT and they are based in the fact that his rant had its roots in his resentment against being told what he can and can't say, so there was anger being directed against the American Jews in question, they were the butt of the joke for that reason and their jewish faith was a central part of it.

However, it wasn't the fact that it was someone Jewish saying it that provoked him, as is evidenced by the fact that he slates Frankie Boyle for the same reasons and in a similar way.

So while he went too far, it isn't accurate to call him an anti-semite.