I have neglected to mention Gerde's Folk City, but that was a world all its own. People like JL Hooker, Lonnie Johnson, Gil Turner, Jose Feliciano, Greenbriar Boys and Paul Clayton played there--as did Dylan, Ochs and many others. I know much less about The Bitter End, but the times were different. In the early sixties everyone thought they still had something to learn from everyone else. Today that just ain't so for far too many people. Have a good evening all.