"BECAUSE IN THIS RESPONSE YOU HAVE IGNORED MY TAILPIECE ADDENDUM THAT THE CLAIMS OF SATIRE & CONTEXT are a *pusillanimous, facile EVASION*;"

No I haven't.

Your addendum put your use of objectionable material into context.

You made your point well.


However, in the process, you also unwittingly proved that you can use examples of objectionable material to embellish a point of view that isn't objectionable.


In order to dispute this you have had to accuse me of ignoring part of your post thus being selective and taking your comments out of context.


"just saying, "Hey, I'm a licesnsed officially authorised SATIRIST & that's the CONTEXT I am working in" actually 'JUSTIFIES' FUCK-ALL."


I agree 100% with this.

That wouldn't satisfy me either and if Manning Davidson etc were to try it I would be forced to dismantle them piece by piece, beginning with the questions "does this person have a history of doing satire" and "who/what is being satirized".

In TT's case, i observe by watching his other material that he plays in social satire - i.e. he plays with cultural stereotypes, mainly of recognizable Irish attitudes and recogizable stereotypes of Irish people (such as "they're lazy and will go to any lengths to avoid work").

I think that in this case he was responding to an accusation that he was anti-semitic and he decided to play the stereotype of a North Dublin Gurrier who's attitude to anything is "F*** off or I'll burgle yer house" and used that character to demonstrate what anti-semitism really sounds like. I also think that he deliberately went too far in the belief that by exxaggerating and ridiculing such views he was distancing himself from them.

I think he made a mistake, but I am reluctant to fall one way or the other as his mistake has to do with the sensetive nature of the material.

On the one hand, his comments were tasteless and affensuve to not only Jews but anyone else who has strong feelings about the holocaust.

On the other hand, sensitive and taboo material is the stomping ground of social and political satire, as is evidenced in every issue of Private Eye magazine who are constantly in receipt of complaints, most famously after the infamous Diana Issue.

I'm going to try to avoid this thread now - I think I've had enough - I'll probably get drawn back though ...