Erm, Lox, you don't need to defend Smokey, because I'm not attacking him. Haven't attacked you or anyone else either - it's not personal. Just disagreeing with a societal tendency (that's far wider than the two of you) to accept people like Teirnan and Carr and so on as "satirists" rather than bullies who go for easy targets. At least Chris Morris focused his wit on powerful groups in society such as the media and opinion makers and so on. Comics like TT turn their fire on minority groups and do it from the relatively secure position of being part of the of the majority. In fact, this issue is far wider than TT and I probably have more contempt for some of the smug, self-satisfied English comedians that turn up on every friggin' panel show going...

So no offence intended to either of you, ok? I'm disagreeing with your perspective rather than sayin' you're part of the problem... ;-)