Give it up, Doug. I am totally in agreement with you, but you may as well be talking to your computer. I'm sure that many of the good folks on the left feel the same. We will not convince each other by stating our suspicions, doubts and supposed facts. Instead, why not spend our time on writing a clever folk song like Art Thieme. A dose of humour/levity is always appreciated. I agree that "Gore and Lieberman" sounds like the name of a great law firm, or perhaps they could be accountants. And surely we can do something with the initials of the Republican candidates = BC. (Of course, GL could stand for "Good Liberals," or if you chose to take the name of the Lord in vain,.......) Oh well, I know there are so many good things we could do with this stuff - except take it so seriously. I'm sure I've mellowed in my old age, but I've seen too much of this stuff in my lifetime. Jim