"Ever heard of the DVLA Leveler??"

No comparison between that and ID cards, which would be the greatest infrigement of personal freedom ever introduced into the UK - and that is why every organisation concerned with personal liberty is opposed to it. Like I said, read the book I suggested - I have neither the time nor the inclination to enlighten you, especially as you don't even have the courtesy to spell my name correctly.

Crow Sister, I don't disagree with you – I just find it amusing that an anti-establishment person like me can have a police officer for a son.

I do think, however, that the attitude of the police tends to reflect the views of society as a whole and, of course, you get good and bad coppers. What you should also bear in mind is that a 'grumpy' police man or woman may have worked a 16 hour double shift and during that time might have had to face a loony with a shotgun, tell a mother her teenage son has been killed in a car crash and been smacked in the face by a drunk – plus the usual everyday pressures that all of us have to put up with. No excuse for rudeness or worse, I agree, but hey, they're only human (most of them).