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Thread #115883   Message #2755431
Posted By: Little Hawk
30-Oct-09 - 12:23 AM
Thread Name: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration
Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration
"Socialist" Canada?

What the hell are you talking about? Canada is full of capitalism, Sawzaw. Didn't you know that? Come up here sometime and find out. Most of the human activity I see happening around here is capitalist activity. Capitalist businesses and services and corporations are everywhere, and that's perfectly normal.

I don't think you have any understanding of what socialism really is. Or of the fact that some socialist institutions simply HAVE to exist in any modern society, such as: the government, the army, the police, the fire department, and a bunch of other things like that which are utterly essential to the running of any modern society...and which can't earn a profit anyway, so no wonder the government does them.

You can't NOT have them. That doesn't make a society a "socialist" society.

We are a primarily capitalist society with a few essential public services which can be characterized as socialist. In that respect we are very much like every other modern society in the world, including yours.

We just happen to have a much better health plan than you do, that's all, and it costs me less than $1,000 a year in my taxes which is way less than you pay in taxes for the health system you have in the USA. And I get free health care after paying my taxes. And you don't.

That does not make Canada "socialist". I laugh at the notion. Anyone who comes here can plainly see that capitalism is the ruling order of the day in Canada.

If Canada is "socialist" by your definition, my friend, then so is the USA. Think about that for a minute. If having ANY socialism AT ALL makes a society "socialist", Sawzaw, then you have been living in a "socialist society" all your life!

Try to think not in terms of all-or-nothing, but in terms of both-and, and you will begin to appreciate the reality of the situation, and you won't bother anymore to say "socialist Canada", because it's a non-sequitor.