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Thread #124364   Message #2760750
Posted By: Lizzie Cornish 1
06-Nov-09 - 07:56 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Add: England My England
Subject: RE: England My England
No Dave...certain parts of this have ALSO been hijacked by the Extreme Left. Both sides have their agendas and both sides are wrong.

The Left has given the Right power to take many of those in the middle forward, down the wrong path, because of their continuous suppression of so many things that England stands for.

You cannot tell a nation that they mustn't look back! Geez, half the world would roll over for our incredible history!

If you don't look back, then you can't look forward, because you do not know where you've come from, where you are now or where you are going to.

Christianity has been almost wiped out.
The Royal family likewise..

And whether you agree or disagree about either, they are both a huge part of our nation's history.

The Far Left despise the Royals, so....they had to go...all mention of them too, and anyone who DARED to mention them would be called a middle class ***t, with racist and classist overtones..

I was called 'a nasty little racist' way back. You know why? Because I dared to tell someone who'd not lived even half the years I have in this country that possibly I understood a little more what it was like to be English. that perhaps you had to have England flowing through you to be able to understand where we came from, how life used to be.

This was after I'd been told that my true and crystal clear memories of cricket played upon an English village lawn, in the shadow of the church spire, was a chocolate box vision that had never existed.

I explained to the American personn concerned that had I arrived on the shores of America and spent 10/15 years of my life there, I'd not have the same memories as someone who had lived there for over 50years..and that this person, being American and having lived the majority of their life over there, would, in my eyes, be far more American than I would ever hope to be. Yes, I would probably be an American citizen by then, but no way would I have that same sense of the past of that country, because I had lived all those years somewhere else...

That isn't racist. It's fact.

Don't come over here then start telling me how my country used to be decades back, because you weren't there. I was. I remember the communities, the kindness, the gentleness that was so often a part of England. It hasn't always been 'this way'...and no amount of screeching that it has will make that true. I've lived here all my 54 years..and I was raised by parents who were a generation apart..my father being so much older...and I have many of his values, I realise that...

My Dad epitomosed what 'being English' means, to me. It's good manners, tolerance, a sense of honesty and integrity. It's standing up for those who cannot stand up for themselves. It's about fair play and decency. We were known, and admired, for so many of these things around the world...and now we are despised. And part of that reason has been that we have let those with other agendas almost force us to despise ourselves. We have had nothing but the badness poured down on us, to the point where our young people can't believe that they come from a country that was once looked up to around the world.

We have let Hollywood turn us into the bad guys, but what is far worse is that we have turned OURSELVES into the Bad Guys, because we constantly bleat on about how terrible we've been, what we've done, how we deserve this or that to happen to us now...

Well sod that.

ALL countries have shitty parts to their history. And that is exactly what it is, history.

Speak to me of slavery, yes...but balance it out with also speaking to me of William Wilberforce...Speak to me of the Empire, but also balance it with the GOOD things the Empire did. Speak to me of the Royal Family, but don't wipe out the entire history, the amazing history that surrounds them..

There is a deeply neurotic faction in this country who love nothing more than to label anyone and everyone as a racist or a facist, if they feel threatened by those who dare to disagree with them. They use those words because they are the new ways to intimidate, isolate and suppress..the new 'you're a Commie!'...to which mud normally sticks.

Of course, they refuse to see their behaviour is as divisive and wrong as that of the Far Right, who also seek to drive out those they do not consider to be of their 'tribe'

I'm not frightened to talk about England, my love of England, my pride in being English. I'm not frightened about the abuse that comes my way...but many are, and so they keep quiet and fester silently....and then, along come the BNP who talk about much of what these people are feeling..and voila, into their arms they fly....



By trying to suppress the English from feeling English, 'they' have let in the Facists...The Extreme Left has done so much of it themselves..

You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't...

Yeesh!