"The Slave Triangle that connected Africa, America and England has had a much greater effect on so much. An it's effects continue.

Are you proud of that?

No of course not - not for a second am I suggesting you even might be Lizzie.

You are picking and choosing what to be proud of. OK do it.

But how is that being proud of England?"


Oh come ON, Les.

Wilberforce gave most of his life to stop the Slave Trade..and it wasn't just the trade here he stopped, but elsewhere too. I'm damned proud of him for a start. There are so many things to be proud of...Yes, of course there are bad things too, there always are, in all countries, but NO other country beats itself up as this one does...and the Slave Trade is a perfect example of that. Over and again it's brought up. Why?   We all know it happened. Some of us also know that it was an Englishman who STOPPED it too, sadly not enough know that though, because hey, that would mean that 'they' would have to put some good stuff down about Englishmen, and gawd...we can't have that now, can we.

I'm proud of these folks....they're absolutely bloody marvellous!

The Imagined Village

But I'm also proud of this man....and if you've not seen this film, ten see it, because it's wonderful!

Amazing Grace


And if you cannot see the connection between The Imagined Village and William Wilberforce, Les....then I despair. The Americans have taken Wilberforce far more to their hearts than we have....and William is now inspiring a whole new generation of young people to fight slavery in this modern world....

But even though I despair that William's own country has seemingly chosen to ignore him, never putting his name beside the cries of 'We have the Slave Trade to beat ourselves up for!' I am deeply proud that he was English...

The Amazing Change