Irrelevent, Paul. All Les and many others, myself included, are saying is that Wilberforce, Morris Dancing and tea on the village green are not the full picture. Neither are the "evil mill owners". Neither are the "terrorists, paedophiles, alcohol abusers, benefit fraudsters and any other minority you can think of". The song is a trite and particularly poorly thought out bit of jingoism. The England it portrays does not and never has existed. The whole point is there are many, many exceptionaly good things but there are also, as you are pointing out, many bad things as well. On the whole I think the balance is in favour of the good.

And many people do object to the things you mention. But not on this thread. Why should they?

DeG