Well, I know what Akenaton's referring to when he talks about stuff like that, John, and I think he has a valid concern. (I'm not referring to the gay issue or the paedophilia issue specifically...I'm referring to the issue of a certain form of popular so-called "liberalism" that is used to back various ongoing political iniatiatives and to silence opposition. What it is, it's the erection of various sacred cows by the media....sacred cows which are NOT to be challenged under any circumstances. And that's dangerous. Oh, and then there are various witches to burn too...they are the counterpoint to the sacred cows.)

As you say, we could start another thread about it. We probably have already had some threads about it. We could start a thread about what "fascism" really is too.

The thing is, though, I have a life to live here, and I don't want to spend an inordinate amount of it yakking endlessly with people on an internet forum. ;-) I can see myself lying on my deathbed thinking back regretfully to how I squandered all those precious hours arguing pointlessly with various other Net addicts instead of actually doing something real.

So, how about I just say "bye for now" and let someone else here start those various contentious threads?

See you.