GUEST,jts - I do believe that the Wings are one of the oldest teams in the league, but, with young guys like Helm, Abdelkader, Ericksson, Leino and some others, I think we'll be in the hunt for quite a while yet to come. On the other side, Datsyuk and Zetterberg are not exactly in wheelchairs, nor is Cleary. I like our mixture of youth and age (experience) and believe that maintaining that balance is part of keeping a winning tradition going,...we'll see. GO RED WINGS!.........................mwh