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Thread #124936   Message #2764793
Posted By: Steve Gardham
12-Nov-09 - 10:48 AM
Thread Name: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
Jim,
We seem to be saying the same thing. I'm well aware the situation with travellers is very different and that in parts of Ireland until recently there was a strong LOCAL tradition of song writing, having read the likes of Glassy, Sam Henry, John Moulden, Hugh Shields etc.

I had assumed we were referring largely to the corpus of traditional songs common to the British isles, North America and a few other English-speaking parts of the world. I'm also very aware that the process between oral tradition and print was a two-way affair in some cases. The broadside printers, or their hacks, were very commercially motivated (as were your travellers described above I might add)and if a song was popular, as Mikeen said, it soon found its way BACK to the presses. Having studied and compared many many texts I am still convinced that the vast majority started out as commercial pieces with a view to a sale.

Of course we can't name the vast majority of the authors. Nobody cared who wrote them and they only got a few pence for writing them, by the 18thc.
However I could write you a list if you wish of those that purport to have authors.