Peter,
Thanks a million - you've made my day
I think it is Mikeen's uncle catching the goat.
Will e-mail you with my address.

Michael,
It was a fairly comon attitude in Speke Secondary Modern - don't think Mr Cobban (funny how some names stick in your memory) was very different from most of his colleagues - though probably not as outspoken.
Nor do I believe that things have basically changed on the sink estates I grew up on like Speke and Kirkby - bit slicker perhaps, and comprehensive education did seem to make a difference for the better but..... I don't think we were ever regarded as anything other than factory-fodder
Jim Carroll