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Thread #18820 Message #2771772
Posted By: Amos
23-Nov-09 - 10:27 AM
Thread Name: Origin: Rough and tough and hard to bluff
Subject: RE: Origin: Rough and tough and hard to bluff
I've heard that tale, or one of the same general pattern but without the John Jacob Schmidt, whose name is also used in a children's song with the middle name Jingleheimer IIRC.
But I don't remember what name WAS used in the version I heard orally, many decades ago. Sorry I can't be more help but at least you know it's not just you, Joe!