Steve - what about hunting circles (especially the fell packs) ... Cumbria's hunting fraternity certainly had a strong tradition of song making, and indeed are still doing so (although probably less than before). None of that is with any intention of commercial gain -except competitions and the like to raise funds for the hunts. Granted, printers have later sometimes taken up some of the songs(notably John Peel)and published them commercially, but they were never written with that intent.