There you go again, Don, twisting around what I said and turning it into some dumb ideological agenda, whether it applies or not, then arguing a point you make up, to refute what you imagined I said. Nonsense!

And to all the others, the early immigrants, when they came here, it wasn't in search for freebies. Nobody provided them, except people who could help each other out, and even still, anyone thinking they could live off their neighbors gratuities, was seen as a lazy mooch! Even the Native Americans did not tolerate those in their tribes that wouldn't pull their weight, (I suppose Little Hawk could expound on that!), moreover, I don't believe they had a culture, where the laziest of them, would or could freeload off the rest of the tribe, and send the 'proceeds' anywhere outside of the tribe!!...then make excuses about his or her 'right' to do so!! So that argument is absolutely absurd, and is only an indication of how far out in left field some of you will go to, to present asinine arguments!

And, by the way, I DID post that the immigration issue was NOT the whole issue about health care reform,..but once again, some one picks out one phrase, or sentence, to expound their derailed subject, and throw off the thread. You'd think by now(think??), that some of you others would get hip to that tactic, and call it for what it is!