what's that Bearheart? you said he expresses himself in an incoherent and shameless way - and if he keeps it up he should be shipped off to some complex -- WEll i agree! he probably does it because he drinks too much of that spiritual stuff you were talking about -- at Mudcat we have a place for people like that -- it's the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed -- i heard that Spaw has escaped again (off camping somewhere) so there is an empty electric bed available --- probably just the ticket! : )peace (Y) thosp