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Thread #125469   Message #2781131
Posted By: Teribus
05-Dec-09 - 03:47 AM
Thread Name: BS: Afghan War mistake or wise
Subject: RE: BS: Afghan War mistake or wise
1. The only people any Aghan government has ever looked after was themselves

Well before 1978 things ticked along quite nicely 1919 to 1929 was period of reform under a monarch. 1929 to 1933 the focus was on agrarian reform and rate of modernisation slowed. 1933 to 1973 the longest period of stability Afghanistan has ever known say increased political freedom, advancement in education and opportunities for women which had begun in 1927. 1973 saw a bloodless coup in which the country unfortunately moved from being a monarchy (which suited Afghanistans tribal set up) to a republic. One of the main supporters of this coup was the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) a communist party originally formed in 1965. They in turn staged their own coup in 1978 and from that point forward Afghanistan knew nothing but strife. In essence the coup in 1978 was a continuation of the feud between two Pashtun tribes the Ghilzai (PDPA) and the Durrani (monarchist).

On the balance I would say that previous Afghan Governments from 1919 to 1978 served THEIR country rather well, it has only since 1978 that that the clique in power was only ever interested in looking after NOT the country as a whole but THEMSELVES.

2. "Karzai, the American puppet, is serving the same purpose for the USA that Najibullah, the Russian puppet, did for the Soviets."

Then you obviously have not read anything about Hamid Karzai and how he came to lead Afghanistan.

I would love to hear your version of how the USA selected him and promoted him into the position of first interim (April 2002), then elected (2004) President of Afghanistan.

Right up until November 2001 Karzai was in Afghanisatn fighting the Taliban. He was brought out of the country to attend the Koenigsee Conference in Bonn Germany after having been nearly killed by the USA in a "Friendly Fire" incident.

At the Bonn Conference where various Northern Alliance leaders, representatives of the Afghan people and the United Nations met, Hamid Karzai was selected as candidate for the post of Interim President to be confirmed by a vote to be taken at a Loya Jirga to be held in Kabul early in 2002.

Now where in this process did the US come into the picture, I mean apart from nearly killing the man?

The "foreign" influence on Karzai is Karl Eide the Norwegian Head of UNAMA.

The recent Afghan election was extremely corrupt. It cannot be taken as having been a legitimate election, and everyone knows it, but the charade goes on, because the reality of the situation is that after the last thirty-one years of civil war and destruction you have to start somewhere.

To say that Afghanistan has never known democracy is false, they enjoyed to varying degrees liberal secular government that rubbed along quite nicely for nearly 60 years before the Soviets moved in. It is now up to them, the Afghan people and their leaders, to try and work back to that state, the United Nations is helping them in that task, the Taleban are trying to hinder and halt that process.