Sorry backwoodsman, but it does.

I said god botherer. I didn't say person with religious belief. Many of my own family and friends have faith and belief and I do not consider them god botherers.

The term is reserved for those who try to say that their god exists for me too, when of course he does not. Then when you complain that they have influence on everybody's lives, regardless of whether you are superstitious, they claim you are persecuting them.

Groundless shite is what I am complaining about. The groundless shite that says if you have a lifestyle that doesn't concord with a couple of sentences in an over translated 2,000 year old fairy story book, you need putting to death. (The thread of this debate.)

The Irish children situation, as Jim Carroll rightly brings it into this discussion, is not only truly awful but the systemic cover ups over the years by church leaders of the disgusting, tragic and downright criminal antics of some of their employees completely stops their right to moralise to the rest of us. (Moralising aka god bothering)