Robomatic, As I said above I was surprised to find Smithwicks in an "Irish" pub in the States (Cape Cod, never saw it anywhere else in the US ) but it was vile!, probably there in the pipes for a long time.However Kilkenny or Killian's Red is not bad at all, perhaps it has a faster turnover? .The highlight of my trip though was seeing Gordon Bok playing at Wood's Hole.That made up for the days feeling seedy after the Smithwicks!