Thanks Bob, I just finnally found all that out just before I came back here.Another thing I found out,do not know how much truth there is in it.But supposedly at the beginning of the Castilla brand it was origonally made in Spain.But at some point aprox..in the 1950's they sold out to some large holding company which moved all the manufacturing to Asia.(signs of things to come for all industry 50 years later)ha ha.Not really funny.But anyway thanks alot for your input. Thanks,Jeff S.