I've been following this thread for some time and have done some thinking on the subject of objectionable material and censorship. My parents never censored what I read, watched or, listened to. I believe the "off" button is attached for a reason. And I find it extremely irritating when something is edited for children, after 9 pm. However, there is a limit, and I think Cop Killer exceeded the limit. The use of the term "hate crime" in these threads is interesting. As a jew, I'm accustomed to the term, but have always thought of it as applying to minorities or religion. Cop Killer literally spews hate. In my family, growing up, there were two words we were never allowed to use: "hate" and "liar." I thought it was pretty dumb, then, now I understand. This is a thread that could go on for eons; probably until someone rationalizes the situation and all of us tired 'Cats succumb and say "Oh, yeah."