GfS, once again you are trying to put words in my mouth.   (PTUI!!!).

Reread what I posted at 21 Dec 09 - 09:37 p.m. I describe an thoroughly peer-reviewed experiment at "curing" homosexual subjects that totally failed to effect verifiable cures and resulted in a high percentage of recidivism, the next highest percentage simply choosing a life of celebacy, many of them developing psychological problems including clinical depression, and six of the subjects committing suicide.

And as for the two people that I mention (one "former" gay and one "former" lesbian), it was pretty obvious that there was no cure at all. From the time they were "saved" (i.e., "accepted Christ"), they denied their homosexuality vociferously and abstained from sexual activity entirely. Now, you may call that a "cure," but most reasonable people would not. It is a simple case of denial, and if you are any kind of competent counselor, you would see that.

Don't try to make it look like I am agreeing with you when I am not!

Don Firth

P. S. And again you cite Cohen, the "reformed" homosexual, whose method of treating his homosexual subjects is to cuddle and caress them and assure them that they are loved! He has long since been shown to be an exploiter and a charlatan.