""May we go on??...with your imperial permission..or do we have to endure more of your off topic meanderings?""

If you would really like to move on and discuss the issues, how about giving your response to some of the questions which heretofore you have studiously ignored, in favour of attacking other posters for their style of writing or knowledge of the English Language?

A couple of examples are repeated below, the first, a question in response to a comment from Ake, to which, I already know, he will make no sensible reply. The second, a statement by me, which I consider self evidently true, in response to his persistent claim that homosexuals are, as a group, promiscuous, and uninterested in marriage.

1. Exactly how would permitting same sex marriage "undercut" the nature or function, or the "fundamental purpose" of heterosexual marriage?

That statement is arrant nonsense.

2. The number of marriages so far taken up is immaterial. Civil rights are not granted on the basis of how many citizens suffer discrimination, but rather on the basis of ensuring that no citizen suffers discrimination.

This is not politics! It is not pro-Gay propaganda! It is a matter of civil liberty, and civil rights under the law.

So Gfs, you said you wanted to discuss. Let's have your response to the questions posed, and not the writing style.

Don T.